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Big Problems at Little Belleville School
Posted 3 years ago
Wed, May 5th, '10 - 5:49 am
A group of parents at a Belleville elementary school say they’ve taken their children out of class to protect them from a violent student and an administration that doesn’t seem to care. Kim Sommerville is one of a number of parents who came to our newsroom to explain what’s been happening to her son at Queen Victoria on Pine Street since September. She claims her son has been bitten, beaten up, had scissors thrown at him, stabbed with pencils and sworn at by another student. Cindy Hilts says she’s pulled her son out of class and has begun home-schooling for the same reasons. She says he won’t return until the issues at the school are resolved. The Hastings-Prince Edward School Board has declined to comment on the situation at Queen Victoria. It was announced last week that the principal at the school is being transferred to Massassauga-Rednersville in the fall…but, it’s not known if that’s in relation to the problems at Queen Victoria.
I hope more parents will come forward with these concerns at this school to the media or paper. No action will ever take place with the Board, to reprimand this principal.If I had the resources, I would be pulling my child out of this school as well. I’m feeling very sorry for parents at Massassauga-Rednersville school coming this fall.
Dear Concerned Parent..
Is this offending Child still at that School, and is my child in Danger? IF you know more, than what the Media is saying, then is there some way you can let any of us parents know more information then either the media or the school is letting on. I can be reached at neonracer@gmail.com Thank-you.
I thought “bullying” isn’t cool? So instead of every student suffering because of one individual, deal with the bully!
Suspend him! This will send a message to other bully’s that it’s not acceptable.
Another pathetic example of the victim not being protected.
WOW so its Bullying??? Yes, suspend this offending student, so that all other students won’t go to school in fear. Its not exactly a good learning environment where children are scared to be there.
This is great news for us, we already have huge “bullying” issues at our school. The new principal will be right at home. Maybe it’s time to move to another school board area that will deal with thier “issues”, not just moving/hiding them.
My children attend Queen Victoria school and we have had to deal with bullying not only at school but also on the bus. I spoke to the school and even the bus driver and was told each time there was nothing they could do and than they would turn around and say well your son did this or this.
This school has really fallen through the cracks and the students are suffering the teachers are turning their backs. We are talking about a school that no longer sends notes home, has had problems with headlice and when confronted about it parents are told “we don’t have the help to check each kids hair” so they tell parents we have to trust that you as parents are doing your job. I am glad this is being brought to light and hopefully Queen Victoria staff will step up and do something
The child that is bullying should be the one removed from the school!! As well as the Teachers and school staff that let that type of behaviour go on!! Then the childs parents should also be investigated by CAS… Bullying starts somewhere at home…
IT IS NOT CALLED BULLYING WHEN A CHILD HAS ISSUES IT IS CALLED IGNORANCE ON THE BEHALF OF QUEEN VICTORIA,
The specific issues reported were as i verily believe, that of a child with some disabilties in a classroom with several other students. Without an individual EA for that child, to prevent the violent outbursts that have been happening on an on going basis thus sadly the school is not providing a safe enviroment for anyone in the class, the school or for that child either!!! We need to fix these situations for all the students as everyone deserves a safe and positive enviroment for his or her education.
It is board policy a child with an IEP for behavioral issues can NOT be suspended!!!
So if a child has a behavioral IEP even with violence he or she can do whatever they want with minimal consequences and then be able to do it all over again the next day ,,,,day after day after day,,,makes for a great educational enviroment for everyone else in the class.
I am a parent of a child with mental health issues. I have such mixed feelings reading these comments. This child and his parents need help and the other children at the school need to know they are safe. Has the school put together a safety plan? What EA support is there? Is there intervention from other agencies to help this family? I’m feeling very fortunate that the school my son attends has worked closely with me over the past several yrs to keep my son safe and to keep other students safe from him. When I believe his behaviour may escalate at school, I give his teacher a head’s up and all sharp objects are put away. I am always available during school hours. Therefore, the school will call me to get him if their attempts to calm him aren’t working. I’ve even requested that he be suspended, if it is a suspension worthy incident. He is often the target of bullying himself and then rages and retaliates. When there have been incidents I will work with the school and the parents of the other child(ren) involved to resolve the issues. The system isn’t perfect, my son isn’t perfect, but I do appreciate the efforts of his school and most of the parents I’ve encountered.
We also pulled our child out of school weeks ago due to a violent class situation in a Belleville high school and our child has not returned. We have been trying to go through the “right” process to deal with it but the HPEDSB refuses to admit that there is a problem and will not even investigate. What I have learned through this process is that the HPEDSB is accountable to no one! I have even been in touch with the Ministry of ED and they say they cannot interfere with the individual school boards. I find it very disturbing that the school boards have that much power. I am sorry I ever put our children in the HPEDSB.
Step it up a notch…..parents ban together and go talk to your MP that is what he is there for. Might even be a police matter,as far as I no the schools have or are supposed to have a strict “hands off” policy. Why should one kid be able to destroy a whole class, shouldn’t majority rule??? protect your KIDS and your TAX DOLLARS. Sounds like you got our old principal, never did nothing about anything….he was a useless tool in the shed. Good luck to all concerned.
I’ve been there, done that. The MP’s office says they can’t do anything to help.
If the officals can’t do anything, then it’s time for the class to stand up to the one bully and bring them down a notch.
No wait, only then would the officials get involved and the bully would get a huge cash settlement, likely their own talk show provided to them by government dollars.
This world is getting more and more screwed up by the minute.
I realize that I put my e-mail uo there, but do we know the names of these children, so that we are not in constant worry of our Children getting hurt? What grade is this bully in? IT would be easier to find out what teacher he has, that way we can silently walk our child into class and pick up our child, knowing that the area that child is in, we can walk away from. Thanks to all who personally replied to me.
Well the MP should be a shamed of himself!!! I read below that this kid can’t be suspended….. parents of these “special kids” are always wanting their kids to be treated equal at school. Equal is equal straight across the board! This kid needs to be removed from the school and placed somewhere to get the help he needs, lets face it he needs help if he acts like that.
I really wish that everyone, parents and media, would get all the facts before jumping on a bandwagon. The school in question does have some issues with behavior in certain students and it is being delt with in the only way provided to the school. The governements and boards make the rules and the teachers and principals follow them. The principal at Queen Victoria school is a gem and you could not ask for a better authority figure in your child’s life. They are fair, but firm when necessary and always caring to every student. Every day there are several students that leave their class to go and show her their work. She is so encouraging. As a parent at this school, I am very sad to see our principal leave. Mass-Red school is very lucky to be getting her. As parents, please don’t worry. Our school is a better place because of our principal. Every school has issues and the stories of a couple of people do not always tell the full story. I encourage all to find out the rest of the details. I know there is more to this story if you dig deep enough.
Wow im in absolute shock that the school board wont comment on this situation!!! Unbelievable to think my tax money is being used for ignorance,,,,
I think our community deserves an explanation on whats going on here!!
I would also like to wish Kim and Cindy good luck on homeschooling their children, its remarkable to see parents putting there children’s needs first.
Good luck ladies with your quest, and just so you know…your not alone, the community stands behind you’s.
I have three young chidren that go to Queen Victoria all and all it is a very good school. All schools have there problems!! In my time dealing with this school I have found them to be extremely strict and thought they need to lighten up a bit, my child would get in trouble for something foolish and I would get letters home and phone calls at work. Which shows they care so I appreciate that. I was shocked to hear about this situation. Most of the problems are due to the kids having all the control and the power. Teachers are not able to discipline the children the way they need to because it is frowned upon by some parents. It is not in the teachers control or the principals. All the control needs to be with the parents in raising there children properly. If they are shown violence at home then they will be violent at school because that is what they know. If teachers were allowed to be more strict like when we were growing up alot of these problems would disappear, because there would be consequences!!!
I think that it is a terrible situation if you have to pull your children out of school due to this issue, but I am thankful the parents were vocal about it or us other parents would never know! Thank You to those parents!!
I am normally all for treating everybody equal but if there is a child that is capable of this kind of violence at my childrens school then we as parents need to be aware of this in order to protect our children.
This situation is a double edge sword. There are rights and wrongs in the whole situation. The school needs to become more active in their actions towards the child, the parents of the child need to advocate for the child and get him the education he deserves. My hat goes off to the parents that have “spoke up” and I to wish them luck in all future endeavours with their children as I wish “the child” much help and understanding. HPEDSB should be ashamed that they allowed a situation to go this far.
Get the facts. The principal of this school is great. She has done nothing but great things for this school. Sham on the MIX for not doing some real reporting.
It’s obvious that “Get the facts first ” person, doesn’t know their facts. It would be a different story if your child was put into this situation. As you can see all the comments posted to this story, their is problems and concerns at this school that have gone past the boundary lines. I can tell you my family is still distraught and angered that principal is still in this position. She has put my family through hell and good knows what she has done to many more children and parents at this school. Thank god, I have a good relationship with some of the teachers at this school. Most parents who have posted these comments, will agree the stories always change when they get to the principal’s office and the child who has to be disciplined is not being disciplined. My question is, what kind of child is be reprimanded “boys” or “girls” at this school? I have a suspicion that a “gender” is being discriminated.
Your MP won’t speak with you unless you contact your school trustee. Good luck, even if your school trustees Mr. Cotton or Mrs.Hall with call you back. Also, as far as tax dollars the board know that this school numbers have been low for enrolment due to this principal. If anyone was smart enough at the Board could see numbers have declined since she has been in power. The band-aid for this school was to save our tax dollars and introducing full day kindergarten. Their is some great teachers at Queen Victoria and they should not be blamed for the actions of the principal. I hope with this news story being broadcast, Queen Victoria will pull up their socks and realize we as parents are very concerned for the children of our future.
Thanks Kim and Cindy for bringing your concerns forward. Thanks to all the parents who have valid comments. I’m glad I’m not alone! Shame on you, Slager!!!! Maybe you should be suspended, or do you have a “IEP”?
My child was seriously hurt at Queen Vic three years ago under the principalship of Ann Slager. She lied to me about the facts, misconstruing what actually happened whilst trying to protect the teacher involved. I did go to the board and had satisfactory results in that I was heard and she was emailed my complaint, however Mrs. Slager continued to act as if nothing happened and never apologized. I’m very happy my children are finished there. Mr.Jamie Robb brought in the respect program and did a fantastic job, I’m sure he would be quite saddened to know how far off the light the way program Ann Slager has taken the school. Why chant, respect, give it get it every day on the announcements and have it painted on the school sidewalk when the administrator of the school picks and chooses whom she respects even amongst her teaching staff.
The bullying continues after Queen Victoria…….
I have a nephew who was punched in the face by a student who transferred from Queen Victoria to attend his last 2 years of public school. He got a suspension but no charges could be laid as he did not break any bones (only left my nephew with complete embarrassment, and a bruise that engulfed his face). This same student sent my other nephew to the hospital after knocking him down and left him with a concussion. This same student has been spoken to on many occasions regarding bullying fellow students in the school. One of my nephews wakes up with headaches and is anxiety stricken most days as he does not want to attend school to be bullied again.
What happened to ZERO TOLERANCE? Why are we allowing these issues to continue and why hasn’t there been any repercussion to those who can’t function civilly in the school setting? As parents who deal with their children being bullied, you need to SPEAK UP and question your child’s education! What about the rights of the 98% of the school population that live in fear?
Maybe the government should provide subsidy for parents to send their children to private schools where education is taken seriously and issues are handled properly.
Two years ago after moving to the area I was under the assumption that the school would be great, I took my child to enroll and see the new surroundings. Walking to the front door I still remember seeing a child laying on the ground outside crying, and when I went into to school the principle was talking to another adult and a classmate was trying to get the adults attention to help his friend on the ground. The “good deed” child was greeting with the adult screaming at the top of her lungs that he was rude to interrupt and he was being disrespectful. I still regret to this day that I didn’t stand up for that child and point on the real disrespectful person. After enrollment I left feeling very upset. The school playground is not supervised well, you are able to walk on and off the property amoung the children and not even be questioned. I witnessed one child punching another child in the face and I walked right on the property and gave them an earful and nobody questoned me. I questioned the safety and was told that they do the best they can and that a hands off policy within this school is unreal do to the demographics. I send my child to school thinking they are safe and are in an environment that promotes respect (give it get it). I am thankful the teachers my child has had have been awesome and really do care for the education and well being. But if there is a problem where some kids are in danger than action needs to happen and it doesn’t matter if that child is a special needs child…the other children in that surrounding have rights too. They have the right to a safe environment; the right to learn; the right for respect; and the right to have adults look out for them when they are unable. Hats off to the parents that are stepping up to do more, I wish I could help. I am sure the bullying child has good qualities but just needs some attention to help them cope, deal and grow into a developed citizen and this does not seem to be the environment to help. It seams the school and board have done nothing and that is not acceptable. What can we do as a community to turn this situation into something good and possitive and protect our young ones and stand up for them?
just for the record the bully does get suspended. now im not sayin bullying is good but what are these other students doing to get the “bully” going to the point of hitting???? all kids fight and arguee. and im sure the parents are doing everything in there power to stop there child from hitting and acting out in school. i say this cuz i know the parents of the child in question. and i do agree that with all the funding that the shools get that the students that have “special needs” should have some type of help or an extra adult in the class to prevent these things from happening. why dont the parents of the child being bullied ask the school for a meeting with the parents of the bully, to see what can be done? instead of letting thing get out of hand like they did? like i said i am not for bullying but i know for a fact that the parents are doing everything they can to help there child controll the hitting. and why is the 1 parent telling people who the child and the parents are? if you know the family try talking to them….
I am a mother of a child on and IEP for behavior. I am responding to the post from unreal answer about Board Policy on suspension. My son has been suspended several times for behavior issue’s. I know of no such policy, I wish that were the case because there has been countless times that an in school would have been helpful but that never happens if he screws up he is gone. And he is not even violent, its just oppositional issue’s.
I was wondering where you read that policy, I would like to check that out.
I totally agree with the 1 parent letting other parents no, come on as if the other parents didn’t already no anyway. Why should other kids have to leave school because of 1 kid?….sorry but it’s not the teachers job to deal with violent children nor should the other children have to put up with this!!!! 1 child is causing all the problems it seems pretty clear to me if the school can’t provide an EA for this kid his parents should do the right thing and home school him and let the kids who don’t harm others attend school.
Well I see Queen Victoria school has NOT changed!!! If anyone needs help with this I will stand up also!! My son went there 4 yrs ago and it was the same…….a kid kept pushing him in the coat area and the teacher instead of talking about it just said….I cant talk about that child!!!! CRAZY!!!!!!!! But if my son did anything they would suspend him……..sooooooooooo I have proof how unfit that school has been and obviously is still to this day.
There is a school in Belleville that has a program for children with needs I believe its at Park Dale Public School however to get your child into the program you need to have the principal of your child’s current school to send in a letter of referral and Mrs Slager will not do this as I have a child with behavioral problems and she would not help us out.
I think discipline starts at home. Everyone on here commenting on how their child has been bullied or child has been beat up, why do you make the change at home before you send the kid to school. School is not a babysitting elective, it is to teach them to be intelligent. Before you send your kid to school in the morning why dont you tell him to remain in his seat, not get in fights and listen to the teachers as he may be able to learn something today. I think the teachers have an onus to run a safe envoirnment at school however the kids are the ones who have the ability to create the atmosphere at school.
I have a young child at Queen Victoria School and come September will have another child attending. I would love to see the rules and policies change so my children will be safe when I’m not able to watch them. I would be more then willing to ban together with other parents to see if we can get these issues resolved. I am glad to see that there are parents out there willing to speak out against unsafe situations for our children. I understand behavioral disabilities really well and although it’s hard on the individual to have to live this way it doesn’t make it ok for other children to feel unsafe or to be hurt because of it. I think the parents and the school really need to step up and figure out a way to deal with the situation. I, myself have never had any problems with Mrs. Slagger but I’ve never had issues that have required me to deal with her either. I do think it’s time that the parents voices be heard and we make the school board listen.
After seeing the front page story last night in the paper, it was the topic at dinner. I was disgusted reading about the choking comment, does this child know what chocking can do to someone! Never should this happen no matter what! There is no excuse for that type of action being done to another human being, or any physical contact for that matter. With that being said, my child did have some comments on the situation. Apparently this bully gets bullied and that is how it starts, and it isn’t just by just one student but by several. They call the bully “spaz” on purpose and make fun of him and the “special need” he has to get him going so he will “spaz out” as the term was stated. Coming from a 10 year old, “it isn’t fair they treat him like that and then he is in trouble for being a bully when he spazes out”. My child did comment that they are afraid of this child because he is known for being mad (which I think was meant to be violent), but if he was treated nicer and not picked on he wouldn’t spaz out. We deserve a healtly (mental and physical) safe environment for our children to learn in. I believe there is a bigger picture here and I don’t know of the correct solution, but I am sure it should involve all the children in the class/school. All children involved, starting the bullying and finishing it, should be accountable. I explained to my child that even laughing at the child who is being the bully isn’t right as it encourages it to continue and makes them a bully a too. Obviously “Respect – give it, get it” are just words to them now, and have no real meaning or feeling behind it. I remember in public school we had a VIP program where we learned about awesome stuff from friends (good and bad), feelings, right and wrong, thinking about situations before acting…even about shop lifting, drugs and so much more. I still value that program today. Is there something like this now? The school and board need to take some action here with all parties involved rather than ignoring the situation.
im really sorry to hear whats been going on at this school, its sad that one student has been causing all these problems, the solution to the problem is to remove the problem from the school plain and simple, why should the children be taken away from learning time due to one student, i am pretty fed up with my son’s school my son is getting in trouble all the time for defending himself as he is always picked on and bullied, my son has been kicked between the legs i dont know how many times, punched, hit, pinched he has come to me with multiple bruising, sad part is his school wont even listen to me cuz i only have my son every other weekend, my ex has complained and still no answer back from the school, i want my son out of that school and that will be my goal this summer to get him into another school that cares about their students and their education, im tired of fighting with this school and getting no where….to all the parents of the children being bullied by this one student at Queen Victoria my heart goes out to you, you stand up to them and fight for what is right, what gives the teachers, principles and other students the right to pick on our children when they do not get that at home or even lay a hand on our children.
To all parents that have concerns pls .. contact me
threw my email
cindy_hilts_@hotmail.com
would like to chatt thank you
I am a parent of a child that has been bullied, punched in the face left with a badly cut eyey and a bruse and I was told I could not press charges because there was no bones broken which is crap. This kid came from Queen Vic 2 years ago to finish his last 2 years at the school my kids attend. I am not saying my kid is perfect but I know he did nothing to this other kid. Still every time I go to the school he is always at the office. It has not only happend to my son but to my cousins as well and her sisters nephew. It is crazy that nothing gets done and it is not that the teachers don’t want anything done it is cause the princilpe wont do anything. So it is not just being done a Queen Vic but the schools these kids go to after going to Queen Vic.
I really think you should sit down and talk to your son. The discussion at our dinner table last night regarding this situation was very interesting. It would appear that your son may not be as honest with you as perhaps he should be. According to my kids your son and others have routinely harrassed, bullied, named called and ostricized this boy. When this boy with Aspberger’s syndrome can’t cope with the torment, he gets frustrated,angry and lashes out at at his tormenters. He has Aspbergers syndrome and that is a form of autism. He and his parents do the best they can. What is your son’s excuse for initiating the torment on some occasions. This situation goes both ways. Before going to the media, with a one-sided story maybe you should present ALL the facts, not just your son’s version. Perhaps you and your family could also take some training on Autism and Aspbergers and learn how you can help this boy. commpassion works better than torment.
I believe that every child deserves an education, no matter the child. I have read the comments (all the comments) and I dont believe the parents advocating for a safer classroom enviroment for their children to be educated in are in anyway saying their kids are perfect!They to have stated they believe every child deserves an aducation, and want to help all the kids involved. As I now see it there is a child unfairly put into a classroom he or she is not recieving the education he or she deserves and thus no child in that classroom is winning. I feel strongly that change needs to be made for all kids!!! and if a child is a danger to kids and ultimatley himself then lets all advocate for a safer and ultimately a better academic career for all our youth everywhere,,,,,HELP NOT HINDER THEY ARE ALL OUR FUTURE PEOPLE!!!!!!!! we must want a strong educated future…. I know I do.
First of all, I’m not the bad guy in this! I’m a concerned loving parent who wants the best for my son. I’m frustrated with the School Board’s action. Second of all the child with aspergers which you are indicating that he or she has I want the best for that child, this child needs one on one Help & support!
Let me inform you that i have asked the school to educate the grade 5 class on the child’s individual disability and was refused.
So tell me what else i can do!!!!!!!!
Thirdly- My child isn’t perfect but let me tell you my son has never bit or threw scissors across the room or either attacked a teacher. This child also needs/ Deserves an education in a safe supervised school environment.
*** and for your future references it’s HILTS with an “s” not a “Z”
Im glad to see people care for the education and safety of children,,,I have read the Sunday sun in Toronto and believe you me we are all looking for change. After hearing the Lorne Brooker show on Thursday and listening to a caller say a child with disabilities would pool his saliva for well over half an hour then spit it onto staff and students and that schools preventative action was to put staff into smocks,gloves and masks I was floored……Do we really as parents need to dress our kids in the same attire to insure they are safe from germs,,,,and that said armour underneath incase there is not only bodily fluid thrown in class but physical violence too,,,,that was appauling to hear and I thank “Steve ” for coming forward, I applaud the parents for taking action… Good luck and thanks for you!!
My apologies for misspelling your name. I grew up with a friend whose last name was spelled with a “z” and it was an unconscious habit. I am also not saying you are “the bad guy in this”. I only wanted to point out that my children ( who are also not perfect) had some interesting perspectives on your artical in the papaer and on the news. They felt that you were portraying your son as a totally blameless victim and that this monster child randomly targets him. I wanted to point out the other side too so readers get the whole picture. The child is not just “a bully” as he was labeled. He is a child with Aspergers and whose behaviours are in keeping with that syndrome. Your son has also initiated some of these episodes of “bullying” by name calling, and teasing him until the boy lashes out, then he (your son) acts like he did nothing. I’m not condoning the behaviours of either child. I see it as cause and effect. My child has been pushed to the ground by your son and then he laughed at her called her a cry baby. When my child went to the office their response to her was “stay away from him”. So he was allowed to bully her and get away with it. hmmm.
Again all sides should be presented and your call to the radio station and newspaper artical painted a very one sided, story.
ALL kids derserve to get a great education, and not fear going to school. Schools and parents need to work together to build that community. It will never be perfect, but a little tolerance may help.
I agree there are two sides to every story ,,,but what is the important thing is finding a solution to what has become an obviuos problem. Will the school board finally stop and take a look at what is going on and find a solution or will they continue to brush it off?
Miss Hilts stated “I understand this child my have some promblems, like issues..”. Miss Hilts, you make it sound like this child had family problems. Why couldn’t you be honest with the reporter and say. “This child has Aspergers and this behaviour can be difficult and my son and others often pick on him until he becomes violent”. Aspergers is not a “problem” or an “issue”. You asked “what more can I do???” maybe you could take the time while homeschooling your son to teach him compassion and tolerance and both of you can learn more about Aspergers. I am saddened when any child is the victim of violence and I feel for you and your son, and the other kids in the school. But rather than blaming the teachers and principal, allow your child to take on some of that responsibility and look at how he treats others. Everyone needs to work together.
When reading the above I am thinking there is a lot of adult bullying going on here and how can children learn if good behaviour is not modeled at home? I had occasion to have a child in my home attend QV last year. He had a lot of behavioural issues bullying being one of them. Mrs slager worked tirelessly with the child and myself through daily monitoring of his behaviours and consequenses and rewards. Had it not been for Mrs.Slager he would not be experienceing the successes this year. It takes a community to raise a child and every one should walk a mile in Mrs Slagers shoes.
As everyone else i have my own opinion on this situation…I do not have any child at Q.V but can assure you that bullying does happen everywhere. It is very unfortunate that the individual with the disability is being portrayed as a bully. Having worked with Autistic individuals for the last five years i can tell you by experience that they lash out when they are upset, anxious or feel threatened in any way. Please put your feet in this childs shoes or his parents. I have the up most respect for this child and his parents for staying so calm and collective through this whole thing. It is much easier to teach a child without this disability how to interact socially with there peers than it is to with individuals with various types of autism. If parents cant teach there children how to respect and treat everyone equally then the parents are to blame. There is consequences to actions simple as that not rocket science. If the school is not willing to educate about autism there are many resource centers available for parents and children that really are serious about educating themselves on it, then again you all should know this if you truly do care about the individual child and your own childrens education and safety as you say you do. I am sure you have already utilized the resource center because there is one just down the street from the school.
Well said!
thank you!
okay it is funny how the name was never mentioned and all of a sudden everyone knows what is wrong with this child
I am very confused!
Its not confusing. Those of us who have children who go to QV and who know the child of the parent who went to the media, its pretty simple to know who the “big bad bully” is. The situations she describes have happened. My experience with the school is that they do their best to descalate the situation.
Word of advice for the Principal at Queen Victoria “WAKE THE HELL UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE” And to the Hastings Prince Edward Board of Education “BRING ON THE ZERO TOLERANCE AND GET THESE IDIOTS OUT OF SCHOOL” Chidren should have to be able to go to school and Learn without getting Blunt Objects Flung at them or poked right at them…If Bullying keeps up in these schools Sooner or later another Columbine is going to come back and Haunt us…That Massacre was a result of 2 Boys being Bullied and that is all we need is another Columbine happenning in our Schools!!! It is time that the HSPE Board of Education wakes the Hell up and smellis the Coffee!!! And to all those who have been Bullied…YOU HAVE MY RESPECTS!!!
It’s not just the two boys who have been affected at this school. My child has been bullied as well along with some other interesting accusations. I’m one of these parents as well, who has been fighting with The board, principal and even my MP for several years. It’s just not isolated to this one issue, it’s power of this principal who has gone over her boundaries than she should have. I’m hoping for some change and want action to reprimand this principal. Please parents speak up and don’t be silent. This is the time to bring your concerns either to media or the Board if you have faith.
Kudos to Cindy and Kim for coming forth.
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I find this whole thing very amusing, not so much for the Sommerville woman and her son, but for Cindy and Zachary. Cindy you have spent most of your life meddling, picking fights, and causing problems for others. It is understandable that your son would turn out very much like his mother, and Grandparents. The smoking, drinking, and swearing that has went on in front of that boy for most of his life is a clear indicator to me that he is not the innocent victim you claim he is. I remember Zachary getting into fights at school, and you laughing about it. Thinking and telling him that it is cool to do that kind of thing. How many times has Zachary been suspended? So when you are in a situation where there is a child with an actual “disability”, you are quick to blame this child for his behaviour. Seems a little condescending to me. I do believe that each child should feel safe in school, as should a parent feel good about their child being there. I just couldn’t help but laugh when I saw this article, because it’s Classic Cindy behaviour. Anything to start a ruckus and put the attention on you. I’m sure most people in Belleville that know you would agree!
I will asure you that these parents never said or say there kids are perfect. And as of having a child in these same grade 5 class , these kids are getting no help from MRS SLAGGER what so ever. I will asure that the other kids are not throwing objects or biting , punching, and swearing at the teacher EVERYDAY’. If another child was to corner the teacher and hit her, then there is some thing very wrong her, and some thing needs to be done. There was another issue on Friday that happened agian in the class room, and the day before , so can you tell me what it is people can do ? this is crazy and will contiue every day till they remove the student. How about just telling your kids to stay home for the next day , becuase the people in charge say ” it takes one parent to find this out and it will be in the media” when they should be supened and not just stay home , oh thats right becuase SLAGER is saving her *** and dont worry about the kids.
People dont come on here with your comments about one another not cool this site is for support to get this school changed around and get rid of miss slager who is the cuse of this all. After dealing with her many times and got no where it makes me sick on why she allows this stuff to happen at her school that she is in charge of.the only people that sufer here is are children. and its not fair something has to be done thank -you
this is in no way a point finger situation, but more over a double edged sword ,,ALL CHILDREN DESERVE THE RIGHT TO A SAFE EDUCATION, THE ATMOSPHERE MY SON WAS BEING TAUGHT IN WAS IN NO WAY SAFE AND AS A PARENT MY JOB IS PROTECT MY CHILDREN. Bullying sadly finds its place in all walks of life….the classroom ,the workroom and home,,,,,it is our job… See More as parents to teach our children to respect there peers and there elders,yet as parents we know all kids will have moments of setbacks even adults,,, no one person is perfect. I can state unequivabley that my son was in no way a bully and in my opinion was NOT bullied rather let down by an administration that should have allowed and faught for my son to have that safe enviroment to further his academic carreer. There should not have been a finger pointed at one child or one school this problematic situation is happening everywhere. I do feel sad for the parents that take this as a personal vendetta against themselves or their children. I will assume that their children will have children and so on and so on we need a change not for now but for our future educators.
I would like to comment on this ——-> I dont think slammin someone else on her is the issue the problem is clear me& my husband have 2 children who attend QVS and dealing with mrs slager for 2 yrs. i dont think she should be at this school nore any school at that when you you deal with her she brushes you off and its her story and she sticks to it no matter what you say. This lady hides alot from the parents and children but most of all the BOARD i think us parents should all come foward and have a conference right out side the school and then bring everything out in open as to what is really going on at QV not only is slager to blame but there are a few teachers there that need some talking to , as for MS sommerville’s post well said and for the board sitting back still with no answers SHAME ON YOU but then agian they all stick togther no matter what
Though my children have grown up now, I can say that there have always been issues such as this at QVS..
I think that the area that these young children come from says something of the arising issues. I feel for “them”.
Instead of bashing your neighbors and teaching your children to do the same, get involved in a “positive” manner.
Teach your children to respect the feelings of and property of others. Get involved in your community. Show you care by getting involved in such things as “Neighborhood Watch”, “Block Parenting”, “Community Policing”. Teach your kids to care for the place they live and the living things around them. Teach them to look out for and help others. Best advice yet is, never forget that “Kids watch your every move. They learn what they know, from you. They are a product of your upbringing.”
Kids need to learn to compromise sometimes. They can’t always get what they want.
Further more, sometimes those that are getting bullied, are being bullied by a “Progressive Bully”. Yes, progressive bully. Ask your pediatrician about it. It is true.
Kids that are bullied to the point that they retaliate are better known as “Progressive Bullies”. As I remember, the “Progressive Bullies” are typically the ones who get caught. Sound familiar? I am sure a few parents out there can relate.
Maybe you need to keep your eyes and ears open parents. Is your child actually being picked on because the child that got caught, is sick of being picked on?
We all make mistakes. Those of us who make the effort to offer consequences for those mistakes to our kids are making them better people.
Don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house.
Make sure if your take *hi* to someone’s door step, you clean yours off first.
TEACHING OUR KIDS TO RESPECT, LOVE , CARE, SUPPORT AND COMMUNICATE is the answer to this problem. Take a minute to reflect, you’ll see, the changes need to start at home.
For those of you who may need help with this……….
check out Barbara Colarosso. She is an amazing lady who can help you deal with a problem child. Ask your pediatrician about her books.
NOW GET AT IT!!!! BE THE BEST PARENT YOU CAN BE!!!!! SET A GOOD EXAMPLE!!!! LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR!!!! BE THERE FOR YOUR KIDS!!!!SHOW YOUR KIDS RESPECT SO THEY LEARN TO GIVE IT!!!!!!
HUGGS
Bullying is a serious problem at Queen Victoria Public School, and I think that it’s time that the school opens they’re eyes and takes a harder look at the situation at hand.
I am a 33 year old man with three children of my own, and I can tell you that this !@%$&*! went on there when I was in grade 5.
I remember going to the office almost everyday after school because students would gather at every exit, so that when I walked out the door they could beat the S*!@ out of me.
Almost every time I went to the teachers or principal they just told me school was over, or that they couldn’t do anything about it.
It also took place on the school yard, during recess, I was really scared because back then I was just a little guy.
The two years that I went to that school changed my life forever, and of course you know it just follows you over to Queen Elizabeth.
I left there also, and later attended other schools, but I must say, I have never seen bullying go on, or experienced it quite as bad as at Queen Vic.
I also agree that location is an issue.
Without centering out everyone in that neigborhood, descriminating, or pointing fingers.
You have to admit that some of the things that go on in the Russell Street complex, the Pine Street Ghetto, and the Bleeker Avenue complex, with or without the children present are anything but productive.
I’ve never lived in one, but I sure have seen a thing or two when visiting friends, and I do believe on one occasion I actually took my children and left because I felt it wasn’t a place for them to be…There were events taking place that no child should ever have to witness.
Again, I am not picking on everyone that lives in the low rentals, however, you and your family could be the best example of what a family should be…… Until you send your child out to the playground to play at the complex, and find yourself trying to again convince little johnny that there really is a Santa Claus, or explain what the “F” word means, etc, etc.
The aggression, the violence really does start at home, and all of the drama just goes to school, “where the teachers are supposed to be babysitters right?”
It must be hard to teach and support the junior cast of Jerry Springer everyday.
On the other hand, I’m a firm believer that not everyone is wrong, and as a teacher dealing with a childrens behavior problem comes with the job, and is what you get payed to do….So if the problem is striking up this much debate, and is headlining the local news….. Then maybe bullying at your school, “REALLY IS A PROBLEM.”
If the child in this case has special needs, maybe look into William R Kirk where he is around other children that have special needs. If that isn’t an option, then be prepared for the public school system.
On the flip side…. Even as a kid I was always smart enough to not mess with the develop-mentally challenged kids.
Besides my parents always taught me to respect them, and I did.
Still,”kids will be kids”, but whether they have mental health issues or not, they certainly will after being exposed to bullying.
I am a 250 lb man, which means, you can guarantee I don’t even run into conflict anymore.
But I’ll tell ya…When the days come, and I snap on someone, lol, you can be rest assured that it’s not about a parking space or something that someone has done in the present. Its The “Waterboy” all over again, and someones goin’ down for what they did to me in 1988 or 1990.
The Principal at my daughters school came to me one day because she hugged one of her female friends goodbye when the recess bell went. Silly! I know, but they are just enforcing a really good policy that I respect, and will see that my kids respect also.
Enforce a strict hands off policy!
Kids, and everyone have the right to a safe environment.